From: Kip Warner
Subject: Re: Occupy
To: Mark Kelley
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:48:19 -0800

On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 19:01 -0500, Mark Kelley wrote:
> Kip...I know you are committed to this story. I admire that. But your
> back handed insults are hard to swallow. Time to turn over a new leaf?
> Time to speak the truth? Come out on the right side of history? These
> are all very passive aggressive ways of telling me I am lesser than
> unless I see history through your eyes.

Mark,

I was very close to not replying, but then I realized I'd be as bad as
you if I had walked away from reality. I don't normally lose my cool,
but things are not looking up for us and I'm tired of doing your job
for you. I am trying to see the world from your eyes and still don't
understand what it is that I have to not know or not experience to
consider the discovery of nano-thermitic explosive residue at ground
zero as part of the most cataclysmic event of the 21st century to date
as anecdotal. So yes, I'm pissed and make no apologies.

You've proven to be incredibly selfish. You've been provided with
groundbreaking research by others who have assumed risks, sometimes
even paid for with their lives, to assist you with going on the air
with confidence, state the truth, and potentially alter the trajectory
of history. You've been given chemical analysis, eye witnesses, actual
admissions of guilt from people who worked in government, more whistle
blowers, the names and credentials of more than 1,500 professional
architects and engineers, and on and on and on, and all you can do is
sit there and resort to a petty cop out of bemoaning the character of
those who beseech you. Maybe I've actually got a point, Mark.

http://www.thevertigo.com/html/9-11/

There are more than 1,200,000 dead in Iraq and 49,600 dead in
Afghanistan in consequence to those buildings on 9/11 having come down.
It does not matter how you see the wars, as Plato aptly put it, only
the dead will ever see the end of them. We just expect an investigative
journalist to not have to wait that long.

Whether its the largest military armada in history that moves on the
extracts of our tar sands, or anti-terrorism bills waiting to be
enacted, everything comes back to the buildings having come down.
Nano-thermite is amongst the long list of forensic evidence compiled
from ground zero over the last ten years. These facts are not
properties of mind / personality, but are tangible, measurable,
non-partisan, 3rd person, objective phenomena, that prompt reasonable
men to reflection. A mass spectrometer has no political convictions of
any kind. We have a couple kilograms worth of the dust recovered from
ground zero that you are most welcome to send to an independent
laboratory for analysis if you wish. Do you?

These facts stand even if I had never been born. Turning it into a
personal matter is a cop out to avoid having to investigate the facts.
As you saw below already, its the number one demand of the Occupy
Movement by an order of magnitude. Click on the Votes column, if in
doubt:

http://coupmedia.org/the-sovereign-peoples-movement.html

Perhaps I have become less than gentle in presenting these facts to you
as a function of time, but I've tried the more amiable approach for
several months now to null effect. Further, you've had plenty of time
to do the research and consider the matter yourself - all the
meanwhile, this much at least remain immutable: Afghans continue to be
incinerated, and our nation is beset with an ever deepening and grave
state of national bankruptcy.

> You judge me each time you hit
> "send."

Yes, and had Joseph Goebbels lived a little longer, he would have had
to stand before one at Nuremberg. History did not absolve him. That's
probably why he ended it before it could come to that. And while it is
a bit of an oversimplification to compare the two of you, the essence
of today's media distinguishes itself merely cosmetically with there
being much to be said of the similarities.

In one sense, you are kind of worse. Goebbels at least needed to wait
for legislation to be passed, the Reichstag Fire Decree, to shut down
freedom of the press in questioning who was behind the Reichstag fire
that eventually brought the world into a state of war that parts of
Europe are still picking up the pieces to more than half a century
later. No Canadian government since 9/11 has ever had to pass anything
that prevented you from honestly talking about 9/11 and the sacred
assumptions it rides on. That's not only embarrassing, that's dark.
Think about it.

And no, the program on the CBC's Fifth Estate does not count. That is
what [is called] in the army CYA, check your ass, or plausible 
deniability. CBC's official consensus of reality is The National. The 
latter still delivers the same cave man hypothesis axiomatically time 
and time again, even if only implicitly.

It is one thing if the fisherman or farmer does not take the time to
investigate, as it is not part of their job description. You, on the
other hand, at public expense are expected to as part of your
profession. That is your job as a journalist and if you were not
comfortable with the risk assessment, there was a promising careers in
fictional storytelling with laxer constraints available to you when the
career choice was made. The same goes for firemen. If you can't handle
fire, that's fine. Just don't become a fireman.

But regardless, keep in mind that you too passed judgement, that the
security of your career as an investigative journalist was of a higher
precedence than the public rationale behind its very necessity in the
first place. Your judgement was one of naive acquiescence and
complacency when the most violent repeat offenders in history,
government, told you such a painfully obvious lie, that 19 devout
Muslims who frequented strip clubs, ate pork, snorted coke, and slept
with pink haired hookers, at the hand of a crusty old diabetic in a
cave in Pakistan who looked at porn, were responsible for rearranging
the entire planet and leading Canada into the longest war it had ever
been in. What the hell were you thinking? What was going through your
head when standing next to stretchers bearing dismembered soldiers in
Afghanistan?

You didn't even think it worth the time to consider the fundamental
assumptions that this state sanctioned circus rides on as part of its
ridiculous never ending fairytale, even as it kept getting compounded
with new annual bullshit, that puts even the densest neutron star to
shame, with another wife in Yemen, a vague assassination in Pakistan,
or wherever and whatever is necessary of the Chronicles of Tim Osman.
Even the eyebrows of stupid people were raised when he was allegedly
dumped in the ocean. This isn't journalism. This is utter lunacy. They
surely teach students of your field to always check their sources,
except apparently when its never been more necessary to do so.

Harper, as you know, is trying to kill the CBC, and your best chance of
taking him down, you're throwing down the drain and helping to remind
him that maybe your public use has indeed met its expiration. And you
know what, maybe the bugger's right? You're helping him and therefore
you're as dangerous to national security as governments are.

But as far as judging, or rather, evaluating the decisions and actions
of others go, the difference in effect of my judgement was that it
merely made you uncomfortable in getting you thinking, whereas yours is
still getting people killed. I saw you in Afghanistan with the troops.
You owe them an honest explanation of how they got there. Especially
the soldier from [the] unit that got an axe in the side of his head when
he was deployed with [the] regiment. He is a vegetable now for the rest of
his life and honestly believes the government is good. He needs to
believe it. Maybe they need medals and benefits, but the truth would go
a lot further than the best kevlar and armoured personnel carriers
money can buy. The truth is, and always has been, the first casualty of
war, and you should surely know that by now.

> You condemn with for not only failing to grasp the truth, but
> actively concealing it.

If you aren't familiar with the extensive body of scholarly research
that has been done in the field over the last ten years, that is a
reasonable response, but you've probably never opened yourself up to
discussion on the matter in the first place. You did not attend the
Toronto Hearings when you knew when and where they would be held and
the identities of all of the distinguished panellists from all over the
world that would be present. Even Israel Asper gave the hearings modest
initial coverage.

http://torontohearings.org/panelists/

That leaves only the possibility of either not valuing the truth (will
full ignorance?), or, as you said, actively concealing it. Either way,
you should either go on the air and state the truth now, or wait for
Nuremberg all over again because, I can assure you, there are many of
us that are prepared to see it through to the end to hold everyone
accountable who were accessories to murder of the first degree under
the maximum extent of the law.

> I know your mother
> and admire her for her spirit and dedication...but also for her openness
> and her good grace.

She also taught her children that each snowflake in an avalanche pleads
not guilty. As for the 'openness', it was most especially useful when
she had the courage to open the books and look into the extensive
research that has been done in the field of 9/11 studies with little
encouragement necessary on her son's part. Actually, by her own
admission, mother called bullshit the day it happened, like the many
millions that now have worldwide. She knew it as soon as the second
tower came down and didn't even have to wait for the third one you've
probably never heard of to collapse symmetrically into its own
footprint through the path of greatest resistance. Her conclusion was
that nano-thermite is hardly anecdotal.

But maybe you should give her a ring and talk to her about it,
604-***-****. Like any educated person, she was hardly surprised by any
anything governments are capable of doing. She once said calmly to me
that there are people who would have a midlife crisis if they knew that
9/11 was a false flag.

She had been under the impression that there was pressure from above
you to keep a can on it, and that is probably why she still has faith
in you. But it sounds like there isn't really any pressure from above
you in this case, which is a lot more embarrassing.

Sometimes you have to assume personal risks to ensure the safety and
security of those around you when you chose to be entrusted with them.
In this case, it's the content of their minds - the most valuable real
estate of any government.

Just go on the air, man up, face the music, and tell the truth. You
once stood before an audience here a few years ago in Vancouver as
chair with mother and I in attendance and proudly boasted before them
in response to a young man's concerns (not mine) that "the CBC is not
FOX". You even told me that you are a bit of a shit disturber at the
CBC. I suggest you put the public's money where your mouth is and prove
it.

You'll get fired, rest assured. But it's probably better that you take
a stand now than not, and later wonder if it would have made a
difference in preventing your kid or somebody else's getting drafted to
Iran. After all, the media recently brought it to our attention that
those wretched Persians and their deranged 9/11 conspiracy theorist
president whose been asking too many questions about the event before
the UN General Assembly were vaguely involved in 9/11 and need to be
held accountable in the same way Iraq was for having dangerous weapons
of mass destruction.

> Good luck in all you do.
> Best wishes
> 
> MKelley

Don't be afraid. Regrets worse.

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